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Post by Dark Mauler on Aug 1, 2020 2:51:35 GMT -5
I thought it'd be a good idea to make a general discussion thread for Raw and Smackdown. Holy Sh#t. The ending of Smackdown was something else. What a great Fiend segment.
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Post by Duke Mongoose on Aug 1, 2020 9:01:28 GMT -5
A masked psychopath attacks a small woman and nobody comes to help her. While I understand that it gets across how evil The Fiend is, it's a common problem in WWE as a whole - nobody has any friends when they're in trouble (except for Kairi having Asuka, but that was only so that Asuka could lose in the dumbest way possible). Remember back in the day when if the babyface was getting beat down at least the jobbers would empty out to try to break it up? John Cena would routinely get beat up by one or more heels and nobody ever came to help him. Why don't the babyfaces have friends in WWE?
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Post by Pierre The Enormous on Aug 1, 2020 9:12:33 GMT -5
A masked psychopath attacks a small woman and nobody comes to help her. While I understand that it gets across how evil The Fiend is, it's a common problem in WWE as a whole - nobody has any friends when they're in trouble (except for Kairi having Asuka, but that was only so that Asuka could lose in the dumbest way possible). Remember back in the day when if the babyface was getting beat down at least the jobbers would empty out to try to break it up? John Cena would routinely get beat up by one or more heels and nobody ever came to help him. Why don't the babyfaces have friends in WWE? It would make too much sense
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Post by The Niz on Aug 1, 2020 9:59:52 GMT -5
I still have to catch up on NXT and Smackdown this week, but I did pick up on another bit of interesting WWE news this week. What's everyone's thoughts on Payback being the week after Summerslam?
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Post by Pale Rider/Nikolai Ivanov on Aug 1, 2020 10:05:04 GMT -5
I still have to catch up on NXT and Smackdown this week, but I did pick up on another bit of interesting WWE news this week. What's everyone's thoughts on Payback being the week after Summerslam? Makes me worried for potiental Summerslam botches or maybe they split Summerslam into two parts. They could have Sasha have the title for a little while longer before Asuka gets it back.
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Post by The Niz on Aug 1, 2020 14:13:28 GMT -5
I'm currently watching Smackdown and it seems like Corbin is getting Gable his name back. If that charisma vacuum gets rid of the Shorty G gimmick he could kill a man on live TV and still be a babyface in my book.
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Post by The Niz on Aug 1, 2020 15:03:11 GMT -5
Update: Just saw the Mandy Rose - Sonya Deville segment. Why aren't these two in the title picture? It's infinitely better than Bayley and Sasha hamming it up on all three shows every single week.
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Post by Magnifico jr. on Aug 2, 2020 13:02:33 GMT -5
Even though the UK division might die I'm surprised that they didn't bring back the European title for a midcard title for them
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Post by Duke Mongoose on Aug 2, 2020 14:57:40 GMT -5
Update: Just saw the Mandy Rose - Sonya Deville segment. Why aren't these two in the title picture? It's infinitely better than Bayley and Sasha hamming it up on all three shows every single week. Why can't it be both? Have a Mandy/Sonya match that leads to the winner (Mandy) facing Bayley. I personally think heel Bayley has been the greatest thing to come out of this pandemic era of wrestling. Being able to hear her banter in the ring during matches and when she used to constantly acknowledge that she could hear the commentators during matches before they added "fans" has been amazing. Michael Cole: Bayley almost lost the title! Bayley (from in the ring): NO I DIDN'T!
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Post by The Niz on Aug 2, 2020 15:09:24 GMT -5
Update: Just saw the Mandy Rose - Sonya Deville segment. Why aren't these two in the title picture? It's infinitely better than Bayley and Sasha hamming it up on all three shows every single week. Why can't it be both? Have a Mandy/Sonya match that leads to the winner (Mandy) facing Bayley. I personally think heel Bayley has been the greatest thing to come out of this pandemic era of wrestling. Being able to hear her banter in the ring during matches and when she used to constantly acknowledge that she could hear the commentators during matches before they added "fans" has been amazing. Michael Cole: Bayley almost lost the title! Bayley (from in the ring): NO I DIDN'T!
I don't get Bayley. She's okay in the ring, but by far the worst out of the Horsewomen and her promo ability is sub-par. I don't believe what she's saying and she always comes across like an angry child that has just been insulted and is trying to come up with a clever comeback, but somehow never does.
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Post by Dark Mauler on Aug 2, 2020 15:33:58 GMT -5
Why can't it be both? Have a Mandy/Sonya match that leads to the winner (Mandy) facing Bayley. I personally think heel Bayley has been the greatest thing to come out of this pandemic era of wrestling. Being able to hear her banter in the ring during matches and when she used to constantly acknowledge that she could hear the commentators during matches before they added "fans" has been amazing. Michael Cole: Bayley almost lost the title! Bayley (from in the ring): NO I DIDN'T!
I don't get Bayley. She's okay in the ring, but by far the worst out of the Horsewomen and her promo ability is sub-par. I don't believe what she's saying and she always comes across like an angry child that has just been insulted and is trying to come up with a clever comeback, but somehow never does.
NXT Bayley was great. Main Roster Bayley has been completely butchered. I don't really follow women's wrestling, but Bayley vs Sasha at NXT Takeover: Brooklyn is one of my favorite matches of all time.
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Post by The Niz on Aug 2, 2020 15:52:10 GMT -5
I don't get Bayley. She's okay in the ring, but by far the worst out of the Horsewomen and her promo ability is sub-par. I don't believe what she's saying and she always comes across like an angry child that has just been insulted and is trying to come up with a clever comeback, but somehow never does.
NXT Bayley was great. Main Roster Bayley has been completely butchered. I don't really follow women's wrestling, but Bayley vs Sasha at NXT Takeover: Brooklyn is one of my favorite matches of all time. I just started watching NXT around that time and Sasha VS Bayley is really good, but I feel like Bayley has reached her limit some time ago and has been surpassed by a lot of other women.
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Post by Duke Mongoose on Aug 3, 2020 11:16:51 GMT -5
I don't get Bayley. She's okay in the ring, but by far the worst out of the Horsewomen and her promo ability is sub-par. I don't believe what she's saying and she always comes across like an angry child that has just been insulted and is trying to come up with a clever comeback, but somehow never does.
NXT Bayley was great. Main Roster Bayley has been completely butchered. I don't really follow women's wrestling, but Bayley vs Sasha at NXT Takeover: Brooklyn is one of my favorite matches of all time. I'm so happy to be able to say I was there in Brooklyn for that match. I don't know that I've ever marked out so much in my life. And I've been on both sides of the curtain in the wrestling business so I know what's up. It was just a brilliantly told story and a hell of a match to cap it off. Can we agree that current heel Bayley is better than babyface Bayley on the main roster at least?
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Post by Duke Mongoose on Aug 4, 2020 11:51:59 GMT -5
I think they finally did it. They finally convinced me that Raw isn't worth my time anymore. This Raw Underground is so terrible that I almost shut the show off at 10pm when they announced it was happening. In hindsight I should have. Are they trying to tank the third hour of Raw so that USA cancels it?
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Post by The Niz on Aug 4, 2020 14:00:03 GMT -5
It's like they're intentionally trying to make it shitty. It already started out bad with the flickering lights and not functioning microphones, made the whole thing look like amateur hour.
The fight club is the worst idea they've had in quite some time, but I think they're going to top it in 3-4 weeks somehow. Maybe Vince is trying to tank his stocks to buy them back at a low price?
Can't wait to see what stupid tagline Summerslam is going to get.
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