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Post by Gunslinger on Nov 6, 2018 21:45:23 GMT -5
Even though I'm a relative new poster on this forum, I have followed it quite a bit, and been playing the game since it's earliest incarnations. I've always seen a lot of wish list and wrestler idea type posts,but I don't remember seeing any "What I Really, Really, Think Would Ruin the Game for Me" type of a post, so I figure I'll start us out.
I love the fact that this game can be played at your own pace, whether setting up a couple of showd a day, or binge playing. With that said, I would really hate to see any type of Player Versus Player mode ever be put in place. I don't care if I face A.I.s of the other federations, like we do with ratings, but I want this game to continue being time friendly for everyone in all situations.
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Post by Ace of Spades on Nov 7, 2018 10:11:06 GMT -5
As long as people can play as much or as little as they want, I'm fine with it.
I'm not sure if anything could ruin this game for me. I just hope people keep supporting it, so the developers can keep updating it, and maybe eventually add a 70's/00's version.
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Post by Thumper Moore III on Nov 7, 2018 11:57:52 GMT -5
As long as people can play as much or as little as they want, I'm fine with it. I'm not sure if anything could ruin this game for me. I just hope people keep supporting it, so the developers can keep updating it, and maybe eventually add a 70's/00's version. For once we agree! I don’t think this game lends itself to a PvP mode, leaderboards, or much competition. For me, its actually a welcome escape from those things. |
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Post by ringworm on Nov 7, 2018 12:41:02 GMT -5
Any type of 'time sensitive' accomplishments would immediately render me to delete the game. As stated above, being time friendly to all users is really the biggest positive this game has.
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Post by Skullgore on Nov 7, 2018 17:20:47 GMT -5
As long as people can play as much or as little as they want, I'm fine with it. I'm not sure if anything could ruin this game for me. I just hope people keep supporting it, so the developers can keep updating it, and maybe eventually add a 70's/00's version. Funny enough, this is one of the things I don't want to see. Not for a while, anyway. Overall, I was not a fan of the decision to make 90X. I thought there was so much more left to do with the 80s. I didn't like that it tried to take a format that was designed to represent wrestling in the 80s and try to jam it in the 90s. The attempt to weave 90s pop culture with real life wrestlers just didn't seem as strong as it was in the 80s. Also, some of the gimmick changes from the 80s characters into their 90s version just seemed real inorganic and it kind of felt forced. I'm glad that the developers decided to go back and put more work into the 80s, but I still don't like some of the anachronisms that are created because it is now accommodating things from the 90s. I hate having triple threats in the 80s, for example.
I've spoken before about the inconsistencies of the whole active years thing and how immersion breaking that is to me. I always use The Valedictorian as an example. Between 1985 and 1989, Randy Savage was a face for all of about a year and a half. The rest of the time he was a heel. Yet I can only use heel Valedictorian from 1980 to 1984. I'm fine with having that face version being available in the 85-89 window, but why isn't the heel version just 80-89? Those restrictions aren't placed on Jet Set Strutter's heel and face personas. Now, you could argue, "But Randy Savage isn't in 80MW. The Valedictorian is." And I agree with this. The Valedictorian is his own character and shouldn't be held to the same constraints to his primary real life inspiration.
So, why is he, then? Why does Flawless One start in 1983? Why not just make him an 85-99 guy? 1983 isn't even really a significant year for Curt Hennig. He debuted in 1980, started working for WWF in 1982, and went back to AWA in '84. Why does 80s Average Guy have to stop at '88 just because Dusty Rhodes left the NWA? Moreover, why is he available for the entire duration of the 90s with a card that represents him in the polka dots? "But Dusty Rhodes is not in 80MW. Average Guy is." Once again, right there with you. If that's the case, though, why does Terry Van Winkle have to go out in 1992? In the 90s, all we get is King V. Again, another gimmick that he had for a little more than a year represents him for a whole generation. I just want consistency with these things. Either treat them as unique characters that aren't restricted to real life timelines OR keep everything tied to being as much of a mirror of reality as possible. Trying to both makes my head spin.
I know it seems like I veered off topic, but I have a point. That whole timeline problem is also a part of the legacy of 90X and another reason I disliked it. Now, people want to add a whole new decade on one end or the other and these issues are going to get compounded further. I understand I'm in the minority on this. If they're really going to commit to another decade, I want something that makes it feel distinctly representative of that time period and not use the one-size-fits-all approach that is still present in the current version. If I don't want triple threats in the 80s, I sure as hell don't want them in the 70s. How is the 2000s going to feel any different from the 90s? I feel like it should be more than just new cards. I want something in the game mechanics that shows, yes, I am indeed in a different time period.
Overall, I'm very respectable of the fact that the game designers have a certain artistic vision for what they have created and how to build on it going forward. They have no obligation to make the game into anything they don't want or didn't intend for it to be. Just because I'd like certain things implemented does not mean I am entitled to them. If I don't like it and it bothers me that much, then I guess I'd have to learn programming and create something that fits my own vision (highly unlikely). I don't want anyone to take it personally, but I think some of you guys expect WAY too much out of the devs. Expressing your ideas to the devs is one thing and we should be fortunate that they are so receptive to taking our suggestions under serious consideration. If I say anything more than that, I'm going to be singling certain people out and I'd rather not be that much of an asshole. I'm pretty sure a lot of folks already think I'm enough of one as is (and that's not an unreasonable assessment). What do expect? My chosen avatar is Skullgore, he doesn't like being nice.
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Post by Stanley The Weeb on Nov 7, 2018 18:42:19 GMT -5
Overall, I don't want to see 70's Wrestling Mania or 00's Wrestling Mania. I have problems going through 20 years on game. You want to add 10 or 20 more years on top of that? Why not simply have an endless mode instead? Sure, you have to restart it each game, but your not limited to years like in normal mode.
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Post by Ace of Spades on Nov 7, 2018 18:43:11 GMT -5
It's weird to see Skullgore put out such a thoughtful reply.  If the devs never updated this game again, I'd be thrilled to have had the time I did. Anything else I get, is gravy. My biggest wish is for a 70s add-on someday, but I know others would prefer the 00s. I'm good either way. If accomplishments are added, cool. I just don't want them to be necessary to enjoy the game. Heck, if active/inactive was a thing completely ignored, I'd be a little annoyed, but meh. A little freedom wouldn't be the worst thing. Like I said earlier, I'm a fan forever at this point. There isn't much they could do that would make me say "screw it" and just leave. |
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Post by Gunslinger on Nov 9, 2018 14:31:54 GMT -5
Skullgore,
I completely understand, and with you on being grateful for everything the developers give us in this game. I know you can make some of the people happy some of the time, but never make every person happy all of the time. For me, I was happy just having the original 80sMW. I never expected a whole new era, much less monthly updates as well. I was contempt to play, buy a token from time to time, and keep to myself.
Unfortunately it dawned on me that updates are coming, and at a fast rate when you've been with this app from the beginning. I'm glad if more people get catered to, as hopefully it brings the devs more revenue.
But like you, I felt like if we all just keep letting the "I wants" and "I wish we could get" posts bombard the forum, and never speak up about what we feel would ruin the game and it's experience for us in advance, then the dev's might be able to save themselves a lot of work. It's always harder to react to a situation if you could have known to be proactive.
I'm extremely happy with this product, support it, and hope that enough of us can help the dev's know what might turn out to be a lot of wasted coding that we don't need. At least I hope I help cut the work down a bit for them on any case.
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Post by Stanley The Weeb on Nov 10, 2018 22:31:56 GMT -5
I DO want to see more homage characters using 'forgotten' property(like The Transformers), and Fan Favorite wrestlers (Super Leather, The Crusher, Sargent Slaughter, ect). What I don't want, if it can be help, is too many wrestlers. Think about it. We already have about 1000 cards. About 75% of thoes cards are wrestlers, including foils. That is about 750 cards for about 350 wrestlers over 20 years. This can be reduced in half again when you consider many wrestlers are alts of other wrestlers, that is about 125 groupings of wrestlers.
Ok...perhaps we DO need more wrestlers. But can there be wrestler overkill? Perhaps...
Just something to think of.
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